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Windows: Renoise is very slow to react when selecting another sound card

Renoise Forum - September 26, 2024 - 13:17

For some reason, when selecting another sound card in Windows 11 with Renoise running, Renoise seems to momentarily hang for several seconds giving the impression that it is going to crash.

To test this, I have several sound cards installed:

  • A dedicated sound card
  • The sound card for the image monitor
  • An external USB sound card (a DAC)
  • Wireless headphones

So, when switching between cards, it seems like a “delicate” affair.

I know I can run the “Reinitialize” button, in Preferences/Audio.

But if you don’t have this window open and ready, you’re going to get this little and annoying crash. Couldn’t this be optimized?

That is, can’t Renoise automatically detect when the user switches sound cards and automatically run the equivalent of pressing the Reinitialize button without the user noticing?

Switching sound cards from Windows 11 options should not affect the stability of Renoise.

The user gets the feeling that they have to wait a few seconds with the mouse pointer “thinking” until it “unlocks”. While this is happening it is best not to touch anything of Renoise, because you could generate a critical crash.

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How I use renoise live in a band while playing bass

Renoise Forum - September 26, 2024 - 06:09

I play bass in a 3 piece band with a guitarist and a drummer. I wanted to play some organ chords live with my feet somehow. I considered getting some midi bass pedals, or similar large midi floor box with a bunch of switches, but cost and size kept me from going down that road. Eventually, the idea just came to me, to use a renoise pattern as a vertical “list” of chords, in the order they are to be played in the song, one chord per line. Then using the “play current line” command connected to a single footswitch, I could play through the chord progression live while playing my bass, tapping the switch on every chord change.

So after setting this up and trying it out, my first thought was ‘wow, this works great!’ I like how simple it is, it has a small footprint on stage, it’s easy to play being just one footswitch, and it’s immensely powerful the more you start playing with using renoise this way. The main drawback is the obvious one, you can’t choose chords on the fly like you could with a more “keyboard” like controller, rather, you’re tied to whatever data you put in the pattern. Also, you need a good debounced switch that doesn’t repeat when held. Since you are merely stepping through a predetermined list of chords, if you fall behind or jump ahead of the band, it can be difficult to recover, and the wrong chord will be playing until you do, so you want to make sure your switch is sending only 1 command per press. Also, there is a limit to how fast you can play stuff with one footswitch, especially if there’s a good amount of latency with your setup.

All that being said, using renoise like this rules, and the more I do it, the better I get at doing more complex things with it. For instance, it started with just organ chords, but pretty soon I was adding melody, adding more instruments, toggling effects, etc, all using pattern note and effects commands. The next big break through was when I figured out that I could use phrases to do automation. So now I can simulate the organ swell pedal by making a a phrase with the volume automation and calling it with the zxx command on the same line as the chord I want it to affect. Now when I trigger that line, the chord swells in over time, even though the curser isn’t moving. I’m also using phrases to play stuff that I can’t physically play fast enough with my foot. For this, I added a second footswitch and attached it to the tap tempo tool so that I can set the bpm that the phrases follow to what the band is playing. It works great, takes some practice though, just like any other musical instrument. I’m also sending note data out of renoise to a midi controller with cv outputs to toggle my bass effects pedals on and off at certain points in the songs, all from the comfort of that one footswitch.

So I ended up with a renoise song where each pattern is a song, and so I didn’t have to fiddle with the computer during the set, I added 2 more foot switches for next/previous pattern, and one more footswitch for stop, in case everything goes sideways and I just need to kill all sound. I ordered the patterns just like our setlist, so once I get the song loaded up, I can play the whole set using only a few foot switches.

So needless to say, I’m very pleased with this setup. I keep finding more and better ways of doing things. It sounds like my band has a keyboard player, and because I’m triggering each individual line, it feels very live. And I’ve seen no mention of anyone else using it quite like this, so that’s why I took the time to write this up. I hope someone finds it useful. Thanks, ya’ll.

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My track - Shadows - released today!

Renoise Forum - September 25, 2024 - 19:09

Hi! I made this track using Renoise, released today! Mekkano, Only Drugs - Shadows (summer mix).
Available on all digital platforms.

Shadows (Summer mix) - YouTube

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The keyboard in the sampler does not work

Renoise Forum - September 25, 2024 - 14:59

hi

the keyboard in the sampler does not work properly. it behaves extremely slow and does not play all the notes when pressed with me using a mouse pressing the keyboard

tried downloading the same renoise version but it’s the same

i work on a macbook pro mid 2017 ventura 13.6.7

the virtual keyboard in logic x works fine

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Plugins sometimes added twice from FX browser

Renoise Forum - September 25, 2024 - 04:50

Sometimes, when double-clicking a plugin in the FX browser, the plugin is added twice: once to the selected track, and another to a “random” track. I presume Renoise is interpreting a slight drag after the double-click as a separate action. Notably this only happens with plugins that take a while to load (a good free one to test is Chow Tape Model).

This happens in Renoise 3.4.4 under macOS 14 & 15.

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Forum links to XRNX Tools on Github broken

Renoise Forum - September 24, 2024 - 15:42

While browsing the forum, I noticed that many (all?) links mentioning tools repo on Github are broken.

File not found (github.com)

It seems the issue is because of a typo, or change in the Github tree : Links points to “Tools”, but the real folder is “tools” (lowercase).

xrnx/tools at master · renoise/xrnx (github.com)

Maybe a bulk search/replace on the forum posts would help to correct all those broken links. s/Tools/tools/g or similar.

I’m not familiar with Renoise github repo, but it seems that the tools subdir has been expunged of those tools too. I was searching for Duplex as an example, and it’s not there.

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Help! key bindings not working and not saving!

Renoise Forum - September 24, 2024 - 10:28

I change my key bindings but as soon as I leave the window it returns back to default and they don’t work, I’m using pure vanilla Renoise no tools nothing, please can some solve this? it’s driving me crazy!
I tried saving the keybindings i made to an external file and even when I load it in it doesn’t save the changes i made.

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Renoise cannot locate certain .vst / .vst3 / .component plug-ins on macOS

Renoise Forum - September 24, 2024 - 04:00
  • macOS 14.4.1

  • Occurs on both 3.4.3 and 3.4.4 of Renoise.

Reaching out to the community, as I’m a bit stumped here. Renoise can locate some plug-ins, but not others.

All plug-ins have been installed correctly as far as I’m aware. There’s seemingly no difference in the file extension nor the location on the disk for these, however Renoise seems to only be locating or showing a select few.

For each of them there exists a .vst, .vst3, and .component file. For example; Xfer Serum is installed in this way, via these directories, and shows in the Plug-in drop down menu as expected.

Several other plug-ins installed in this same way do not appear in the drop down menu. Rescanning also does not show them.

If anyone has any advice or suggestions to explore on this, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Included is a screenshot detailing the selected functions in the ‘Plug / Misc’ section of the setup menu:

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Can I trigger 1 out of 3 different phrases at random

Renoise Forum - September 23, 2024 - 22:49

I would like to have Renoise pick 1 out of 3 phrases at random - always playing a phrase.
Could I also have phrase 1 play 60% of the time and phrases 2 and 3 play at 20% of the time each?

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Individual block preview / play

Renoise Forum - September 23, 2024 - 21:06

Greetings!

How do you ‘preview/play’ a single selected block, and have Renoise output only that blocks data/audio?

The ‘Enter Key’ plays the entire row (of all channels that aren’t Muted)

I would like to be able to select any block in a pattern and ‘preview/cue’ that blocks audio only.

Thank you !

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Question about Vst2 support in the future

Renoise Forum - September 23, 2024 - 17:54

So apparently plugin devlopers have to migrate to vst3, since steinberg are ending the vst2. But i was wondering what happens to Vst2 support in daws? I’ve read various stuff on the internet. Some says daw makers can be forced to remove vst2 support, others say the opposite. I really hope that Vst2 stays in future Renoise. I like some plugins that probably never will be Vst3.

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Recorded by right-clicking on the “Active/Bypass” envelope of the track device

Renoise Forum - September 23, 2024 - 05:44

Sorry if this is wrong.
Currently in V3.4.4, it does not seem to be possible to record to the “Active/Bypassed” envelope by right-clicking on the “Enable/Bypass” checkbox of the track device.
It would be useful to be able to do this.

https://0x0.st/XYqn.mp4

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Ubuntu 24.04: Render Options not choosable with mouse pointer in Fullscreen Mode

Renoise Forum - September 22, 2024 - 00:03

Not really an issue, but it took me a while. When Renoise is in Fullscreen Mode it’s not possible to change the render options for exporting a track with the mouse pointer. What works only is to change the options (e.g. high priority, sampling rate, etc) by the mouse wheel. When not being in Fullscreen mode it’s working fine.

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Emergence is not loading my samples </3

Renoise Forum - September 21, 2024 - 15:50

it’s being an ass. i have tried to load in samples in mp3 and wav formats, none of them work.

it’s the emergence granular plugin, it worked the first time i loaded it in (in another project file) but i’ve been trying for hours now and it’s not working anymore… i dont understand??? i use a macbook

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Remember note value

Renoise Forum - September 21, 2024 - 14:25

I’m not sure if it’s possible somehow, but it would be nice if Renoise could remember the last value. For example: using notecut “C2” on a note. Then the next note would automaticly use the same value without having to type the command. I think i read somewhere that impulsetracker had something like this?

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MIDI OUT from Pitchbend, Modulation, Channel Pressure in Piano keyboard UI

Renoise Forum - September 21, 2024 - 08:43

I sometimes play external sound sources via MIDI OUT on Renoise’s Piano keyboard UI.
Renoise’s Piano keyboard is easy to use, and MIDI OUT to REAPER, etc. is useful for playing CLAP, LV2, Windows plug-ins using yarbridge, etc., which are not yet supported by Renoise.
Sorry if I am wrong, but it looks like Pitchbend, Modulation, and Channel Pressure played on the Piano keyboard UI are not MIDI OUT.
It would be useful if they could be MIDI out.

I know that this is possible by using the *Instr. MIDI Control device, but there doesn’t seem to be a way to assign arbitrary MIDI CCs, etc. to the Pitchbend, etc. on the Piano keyboard UI. If there is, I’d be glad to know.
If not, it would be useful to be able to do that as well.

https://0x0.st/X3R-.mp4

Thus, I feel that there is a relatively high priority on the part of the interface where functionality can be outsourced to external tools without having to implement something in Renoise’s standard. Nonetheless, I would imagine that MIDI OUT would be relatively easy to implement (although it may be difficult to make changes to audio out, etc.).

It might be easier to use the default output of Pitchbend, Modulation, and Channel Pressure, all of which are filtered when the Controllers checkbox is unchecked.
Please consider implementation.

https://0x0.st/X3R8.mp4

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Making `Channel Pressure` UI elements easier to see

Renoise Forum - September 21, 2024 - 06:12

The Channel Pressure UI elements seem to be difficult to see in a dark theme.
I did not notice their existence until today.
It would be useful if they could be made easier to see in some way.

https://0x0.st/X35W.mp4

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Switch Device for nativedsp

Renoise Forum - September 20, 2024 - 08:45

Is there a way to make a device with switch states?

i want to change compressor attack and release with switch 1-5-10-30 etcetc or EQ -1-3-6+6+3+1 dB values by switch…

Is there a way to do that ? ( doofers ar okey but not work like this )

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Live Internal Recording Into Sampler

Renoise Forum - September 20, 2024 - 01:05

Some sort of “instrument” in the sampler that can live record the internal master into the sampler would be great. I like to tinker with plugins and knobs but I find myself having to constantly input/record motion into blank patterns then rendering whatever to a sample, it’s quite tedious. I think FL has some sort of always-on recording device, same with the Roland SP’s. Would be nice to be able to grab whatever I’ve been tinkering with from the sampler whenever needed. I don’t even necessarily mean during playback, most of the time I’m doing this when playback is off, but both would be great.

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What is the way/is there a way to make Redux work like a real tracker?

Renoise Forum - September 19, 2024 - 21:39

Hi there, Great day to you,

I am a musician who has been looking for a way to include tracking in a modern music making environment for about 20+ years

It is simply the fastest and best way for making musically astounding beats & other compositions

( closely resembling to ‘live’ instrument - feel, in terms of musicality )

And i would like to know, how to make Redux ( or anything out there ) work like a real tracker

Real tracker = ( basic ) FT2 keycommands, for composing and arranging

( that’s it )

And it seems like this magnificient looking software is crippled by something called phrases… which yes i am sure has their place… however has nothing to do with quickly composing with some of the best keycommands out there

These are available in the full version of Renoise…

And that is not compatible with other music making software, so the version that is, is missing all the essentials for creating great songs ( inside other DAW’s )

and i would like to ( know a way how to ) make it work

Thank you for your time,

Stay Blessed & Have a Great Fun Ahead

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