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First of all, I don’t think this is Renoise-specific really, but I’m nevertheless in need of some assistance, advice, and experiences. Most of what I’m describing I can also replicate in Ableton Live 10, more or less.

The issues is that all external MIDI events coming from my audio interface Focusrite Scarlett 18i8 (1st gen, yes I know, it’s aging, has lots of known issues, and is due for replacement) to any external synth are subject to severe jitter that seems to directly depend on the ASIO buffer size. For an example at 44.1kHz and 512 sample buffers (11.6ms audio callback buffer latency) external MIDI events also have about as much jitter. Renoise is able to compensate the latency as per the numbers reported by the driver, but constant random jitter of over 10ms or so on every note event is quite noticeable and borderline unbearable for any sort of exact timing. I’d have to go down to about 128 samples at 44.1kHz to make the jitter not be an issue, but buffer sizes that low aren’t feasible for me due to performance reasons. At the other end using a 1024 sample buffer problem becomes even worse and makes MIDI completely unusable.

Worth mentioning that obviously none of this jitter appears in internal MIDI events such as the built-in sampler or VST instruments, only external MIDI going out from the interface (and audio routed back into it). None of the MIDI settings in Renoise aid the problem at all either, only lowering the ASIO buffer size does, but it’s a very brute force that doesn’t even eliminate the problem. One thing I also notice that especially at higher buffer lengths (especially 1024) I can see the GUI refresh rate stutter slightly periodically, and the MIDI timing also gets messed up at these exact moments when the Renoise GUI drops frames. Ableton Live also behaves similarly, perhaps subtly different, but clearly still suffering from the very same issue.

Is this a behavior anyone else has experienced with other audio interfaces? Is it a software issue that could have a solution, or do I need to face the facts that this old Focusrite sucks with regards to MIDI as well? I’d hate to invest in a new interface just to learn that it too suffers from this behavior. There must be some solution though, because I don’t think you’d find many musicians who’d be happy with MIDI timing this unstable.

Attached is a stereo recording of a “click track” with the channels containing audio from an external synth via MIDI, and an internal sampler instrument, respectively, to illustrate the issue. This was done at 44.1kHz with 512 sample buffer which is the default I work at. Also for the record I’m using Windows 10.

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Hi. I’d appreciate it if someone can help with a couple of issues I’m having.

I cannot seem to get Renoise to recognise my Maschine. I have followed instructions in the manual, read some posts in this forum, and unless I’m getting things completely wrong; it’s still not working. I have also tried mapping global controls with the learn function, but of course this is not detected as there is no midi data being received by Renoise.

I have selected device in Renoise preferences, put Maschine into midi mode, still no connection (LED on Renoise not responding).

My second problem is that many vst instruments are not being detected in Renoise, despite them appearing to be scanned on start up. An example of one is Massive X.

I’m new to Renoise and the forum, so apologies if I’m missing something really simple.

Renoise V3.4.2
Maschine Mk 3
OS Windows 10
64-bit OS and x64-based processor.

All software appears to be up to date.

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FL has nice plugin, something like FL in other DAW-s. Unfortunately it works bad - is completely out of sync (sometimes less, sometimes more). Is kind of ok when plugin small window is open and starts play unevenly, some notes faster, some with delay.

Anyone try it?

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Good morning ! You can find my songs, made with Renoise 3.1.1, at the following link : :https://soundclick.com/andromedaproject
Your comments are welcome. Thank you !

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Does anybody know why are notes written as C#4 and not as 4C#?

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question i bought renoise 3.3.0 and i reinstalled renoise and iano roll in tools is not displayed , is it possible to use piano roll with my license, is there a neat way to know how to use piano roll for example to download somewhere , is there a known lick . please information,

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Not a big bug, but I found out that, when editing a message, it shows a text message saying the message got edited, but the edit doesn’t show until we refresh the page with F5

EDIT: test

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1YEI6u9zVQFEV8vuA0wk0Ry3NutcM6OPD/view?usp=share_link
only free external plugins used

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Ey,

I’m working on a bunch of old .xm’s & .mods in Renoise, bringing them to the new millennium and so are working with a lot of instruments showing;

Afaik right now you have to manually go through every old instrument and hit the ‘Upgrade Filters’ button, right? If there is a tool already that can batch do this for all instruments in a song or if there is a native feature that I forgot, please let me know!

If not and it would be possible to script this, that would be great to have as there are a 800+ files to go through .

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I am trying to work out which presets I have used in my old tunes that make use of Spire/Massive. I have newer versions installed on my new PC so the Spire & Massive VSTs don’t load (they appear in the VST failure dialog when I open the tune in Renoise).

Which part (XML element) of the Song.xml file would tell Renoise which preset to load in Spire or Massive?

I’ve created a simple .xrns files which only opens 1 instance of Spire with the PL Chord Me factory preset. How does Renoise tell the VST which preset to load? If there a “blob” of binary data or something? I can’t find any reference to the name of the preset itself.

Is it contained within this “chunk”? (see Massive example below)

<PluginType>VST</PluginType> <PluginIdentifier>Massive</PluginIdentifier> <PluginDisplayName>VST: Native Instruments GmbH: Massive</PluginDisplayName> <PluginShortDisplayName>Massive</PluginShortDisplayName> <PluginEditorWindowPosition>473,150</PluginEditorWindowPosition> <ParameterChunkType>Chunk</ParameterChunkType> 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PolarTimeCast - JailuSerin (BandCamp)

SoundCloud :

(Formerly Chemeleon btw.)

Enjoy

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Hi there!
A beginner here who probably is missing something obvious.
Coming from using the Polyend Tracker I find both a lot of similarities and differences with Renoise.

My first “stumble” is when slicing;
I slice up a four bar drum-loop in even slices (a total of 32 slices), if I want to edit these into one pattern I find that when trying to do it the keyboard keys is overlapping, thus “accidentally” putting down the same slices/notes when changing octaves, this also happens when using a midi-keyboard (32 keys) and changing octaves on the keyboard I also trigger the same keys when editing making it hard to get the edits like I want it…
Is there an option to not have the same keys triggering on different octaves?

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Made a crackle-generator to aid in the production of vinyl crackles, raindrops hitting a surface, choppy randomized gate/glitch.

This is a fairly simple Doofer, but produces some nice randomized gating with filter control. Aim this towards sounds you’d like to be in the background (like vinyl crackle, etc.). Works on any sound you throw in the sampler, 'cuz it’s a Doofer!

CrackleGen.xrdp (7.1 KB)

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Hi , im thinking of getting this software sequencer to use as a main daw, then to hook up some external midi gear and a bit of eurorack.

Im familiar with tracker’s (to a degree) ive used nerdseq in euro track , polyend a bit … my frustration with eurorack / hardware sequencers is you are always limited by tracks available. And some are very limited in song arrangements.

So im.looking at this , i guess tracks arnt limited?
Either midi, audio or sofware instruments?
Midi, or instrument tracks are poly?

What about sync? As i will need to clock / reset out via midi to some external gear.

I guess … ratchets on notes / trig … is possible?
Any cool internal arp generator or other that can be used on midi tracks / instruments tracks ?

I was reading on here …that internal lfos are available…on steps etc …

Any pointers would appreciated…

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Vienna Synchron Player - last few versions freezes Renoise and not working.
Unfortunately - I need new version for new libraries.
Anyone have that problem?

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Hi is there a way to scale the UI? I have a very high resolution and want to scale the Tracks to a visible size.
Windows 11

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Hi is there a german language pack? Not that I need it extremely but it would be nice.

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Finished my early 2023 project, so remastered a few of the tracks before uploading, and in the case of a few, rerecorded the vocals (I still can’t sing though) Feel free to enjoy…or cover your ears and go…wtf is this??? hahah

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renoise and redux are scrolling endlessly in any mode.
something is wrong with my setup and I have no idea where to start fixing it!

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Sonic charge cyclone sampler is awesome
When using it as an effect we can sample in it and still be able play ( send midi data to it) when loading an effects alias in the instrument slot
See screenshot 1

The problem is when loading cyclone effect in a doofer container , the alias is NOt available anymore
See screenshot 2-3

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