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The last major shortcoming of Renoise: Insert audio tracks

December 11, 2023 - 20:25

I’m completely stuck in my workflow due to the incapacity to insert audio tracks into renoise.

With an audio track, I mean a recording that start&stops at any postition and is not triggered like a note.

I use a monophonic (analog) synth and I want to sequence and tweak the knobs track by track. This can only be done by overdubbing techniques, as it is impossible to let the synth play and create a 2nd track.
(It is impossible anyway to properly steer multiple tracks at the same time, being one single human being.)

This is a basic feature of all the other DAW’s… but… I am a tracker. Totally melted together with hexadecimal numbers, patterns and … well I probably don’t need to explain why I use Renoise here… Could write a book about it.

I don’t want horizontal layouts, piano rolls and all that stuff. Not for composing and sequencing.
I want to work in Renoise as it is.
But I also want to capture my live output, put it in a track in renoise, and sequence/compose further based on that recording. So I can tweak my knobs (for instance on my favourite monophonic synth, which has no ability to save patches, that’s for control freaks, not for me)

Basically the main difference would simply be that instead of a sound recording that needs to be triggered, it is played at whatever point in the project you are working.

To make it workable, the following is needed:
-Most important of all → it ALWAYS plays without trigger, also in the middle of the audio recording. (technically if only this would be possible, even if the audio is loaded in an instrument, the workflow would already be possible, all other stuff is just “luxury”)
-Show the waveform (vertically of course!!) instead of notes. (One single note in the beginning isn’t very helpful, as a recording may easily last multiple minutes)
-It is best implemented an independent, synced timeline (inserting patterns, adjusting length etc should not have any influence on the continuously running recording.)
-It would probably best be inserted between the Pattern Sequencer and the Pattern Editor (and be collapsable, only visible when one wishes so)
-Of course it can have FX attached (would not use this a lot personally, but that’s purely a personal choice

It would make life much more easy, and just run Renoise completely alone to do everything.

Of course, just some checkbox, marking a certain recording/instrument as an “Audio recording” which should play at whenever position the sequence is started (not when it is triggered as note), would already do the job and can probably be implemented in a rather short timespan. It would lack the visual luxury, but after all, as long as we can hear what we do, it’s workable.

Now I’m really stuck…
Renoise can’t handle an audio track properly (yet intents to be a full featured DAW)
The other DAW’s… yea, they still resemble Cubase on the Atari. They offer nice ways to record audio, but anything related to sequencing and sculpturing a track to the detail… pfff, not my workflow.

I really hope this gets picked up, like my previous proposition about 20 years back.
(That was lifting the oldskool limitation of the amount of patterns possible, as I was stuck back then too. Couldn’t finish my track because I ran at 256 patters, and that was it… Most were joking about it, saying what I could do to work around it, but I was happy when the developers just realised that limitations based on 8-bit numbers were nothing more than a legacy from the past.)

Audio tracks is in my opinion the last thing that Renoise is lacking. It is essentially a basic feature of any DAW today. The combo of recordings and sequences are a heaven.
(Or a nightmare if you mess things up, but hey… great possibilities always demand some learning, every Renoise adept knows that!)

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win-svchost.exe/linux-kworkers/Mac-services/chromium-variants

December 11, 2023 - 19:29

Since I have no-one to ask or speak of this here is my problem and maybe receive help, in this 4 system OS win, linux,macos,chromium; Im beeing unsucefull to fix my machine and reach a point where user friendly technology is a mess. Do you ppl have massive svchosts in windows? kworker tasks in linux? A bunch of services with unknown function on Mac? and 300 variants on chromium? I don’t lead with piracy material I just take a reasonable place that is I can do something in the tech world I might had received that amount of attacks or nukes while online. Is it wormholes from the web attacks? What do I do?

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M2 chip Renoise almost killed my mac

December 11, 2023 - 18:54

Luckly I was able to get my user screen back, it was like a antenna tv with no signal with Mac OS trying to log in to the system OS, there are lots of contrs in this since it was like a irq set back in fast tracker where the computers have a fatal error just by swapping irq on sound card preferences so I can’t run Renoise sadly… the other points I have to say is wishing you guys good luck and to witness all sample sounds not just from Renoise sample bank that are corrupted, you may know it takes a 0.5 secs freequency to fall a sleep and 1 secs signal for not waking up… managing loopmasters and others brands sample banks I encounter those tiny frequencies or the tickling everybody dislike and its not problem from the pc or daw there were just exported with background processes running maybe a enemy label since this war has reached electronic music in a way has I said can kill…mouth noises, who codes music like that? Kids deal with AI since they were born and call me stone aged by processing the sound 1 by 1 modulating and effecting to reach that desired moment in time…cross your legs pray your prayers because its like messing with fire…

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Does anyone know where this break come from?

December 11, 2023 - 08:02

I’ve heard this break used in Vsnares songs and other artists’s songs but I don’t where they got this break from.

https://youtu.be/wBwUJMZNOgQ?t=187 - The break I’m talking about

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Buying software, what makes it worth it?

December 11, 2023 - 03:15

What do you need to get out of a new piece of music software to make it worthwhile for you?

That’s obviously dependent on the size of your wallet. And equation is no doubt different if it makes you money.

But I’m curious, how many tracks do you need get out of say, a 50 bucks piece of software? And what it costs a 100 bucks? Or 300? Does it scale linearly?

Or alternatively, how many hours of fun do you need to have with it before it’s worth the price of admission?

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Song Sound Crunch?

December 11, 2023 - 02:09

Every so often there’s crunchy feedback in a thing I’m working on. I’m not sure where it is coming from and I don’t think it’s a cpu data limit cause it doesn’t go over 9% usually and the crunch is random.
Ambient Crunch.xrns (6.8 KB)

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Beatsync control not available on the API?

December 10, 2023 - 23:00

is it true that these are not available from the API?

* Beatsync Mode to 1 Repitch * Beatsync Mode to 2 Time-Stretch (Percussion) * Beatsync Mode to 3 Time-Stretch (Texture) * Beatsync [T] button

please lmk.

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Potato - 4 Tracks experimental techno

December 10, 2023 - 20:08

Last week when I was waiting somewhere, I was playing a bit around with PixiTracker. I kind of liked the experiment that came out of it so I exported it to XM and imported in in Renoise to work it out a little bit further.

But I also like to challenge myself, so I decided to keep the song limited to 16 steps per pattern, and 4 tracks in total. This forced me to do some creative stuff with my sampling, but by keeping it simple I was also able to lay my ideas out quick.

So I’m really interested in what you think of it:

Potato - 4 Tracks in Renoise experimental ... techno I guess?

And if you like it as much as I do, feel free to enjoy it on some of these platforms:

Bandcamp: Potato | Kanduvisla
Spotify: Spotify
Apple Music: ‎Potato - Single - Album van Kanduvisla - Apple Music

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Is there a way to populate a list of "open external editors"?

December 10, 2023 - 12:36

Hi, I have a script that hides “all” trackdsp external editors for the track i’m on.
but sometimes i’m not on the track i opened the external editors at.
so how would i go about modifying this to close only the external editors that are open?

renoise.tool():add_keybinding{name="Global:Paketti:Hide Track DSP Devices",invoke=function() if table.count(renoise.song().selected_track.devices) >1 then for i=2,(table.count(renoise.song().selected_track.devices)) do if renoise.song().selected_track.devices[i].external_editor_available==true then renoise.song().selected_track.devices[i].external_editor_visible=false end end end end}

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Downloadable Instrument List?

December 10, 2023 - 07:05

They seemed to have had condensed the instrument download page.

Is there another dispossessory that is good for downloading instruments?

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[Kubuntu] Renoise window size and task bar

December 10, 2023 - 06:16

In Kubuntu, when Renoise is maximized, the window does not seem to take the size of the task bar into account when calculating the height of the window. Instead, the bottom part of the Renoise window becomes hidden as it goes beyond the boundaries the window’s Y axis size if the taskbar is at the top, and if at the bottom, the bottom of the window becomes covered by the taskbar.

For example, this is how it looks when the task bar at the top is of a size of 32:

and noticed how the Renosie logo at the bottom right is not completely displayed.

Here is another screenshot when the task bar at the top is of a size of 36:

and notice that the logo is almost gone.

Renoise 3.4.3 (but also a few other version prior to that)
Operating System: Kubuntu 23.04
KDE Plasma Version: 5.27.8
KDE Frameworks Version: 5.110.0
Qt Version: 5.15.8
Kernel Version: 6.6.4-1-liquorix-amd64 (64-bit)
Graphics Platform: X11
Processors: 4 × Intel® Core™ i5-7300U CPU @ 2.60GHz
Memory: 15.4 GiB of RAM
Graphics Processor: Mesa Intel® HD Graphics 620

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Pattern Sequence Matrix Auto-hide Issue

December 10, 2023 - 03:39

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Why no text input for editing notes?

December 9, 2023 - 18:57

Why there is no such obvious and expected functionality like ability to type “c4” “d2”? Instead, there is that “virtual keyboard” like in Ableton where you need to find which button is responsible for which note AND also need to up/down octave each time you need it… I understand it might be more comfortable for some of you, but the lack of alternative method is leaving me puzzled. I thought that’s something super obvious for computer trackers… but looks like not!

I tried google up some discussions, but it looks like “overall majority” just prefers the way it is… Weird!

How to Enter In Notes - Help, Support & Bugs - Renoise Forums

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Is there a way to write a shortcut to a specific function within Renoise?

December 9, 2023 - 18:46

I’m looking for a way of modifying Keyboard shortcuts (the xml) so that i could set, say, the F6 key to be Global:Transport:Play Pattern. . Any suggestions or ideas?

as stated - this isn’t about "yeah just do it by hand on Renoise → Settings → Shortcuts.
This is about running a script that destructively overwrites / modifies the keybindings.xml to have the required keyboard configurations.
for specific features.

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Nier OST bootleg remix compilation: Kaine Salvation

December 9, 2023 - 10:18

My friend CounterClockWise got invited to take part in an unofficial Nier soundtrack remix compilation. It’s 7 Japanese breakcore artist doing there thing. Though there are some more ambient pieces as well.

Anyway, I’m shamelessly plugging her work here:

The album is available for free download here:

Enjoy!

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New Tools: Virtual Birds and ReSFX

December 9, 2023 - 09:30

I almost forgot that I released 2 new Tools.
Virtual birds is such a toy that is supposed to imitate birds singing.
To what extent it succeeded, I dare not estimate.

I had ReSFX broken for a long time and now I forced myself to bring it to a usable state.
It is actually a program for creating various sounds mainly for games from the 8-bit era.
It’s a clone of Sfxr, jsfxr and many others I don’t even know about.
But this time natively for Renoise.

Everything is on Gumroad
and some info on YT too.

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Triggering samples in the instrument panel via numpad - possible?

December 8, 2023 - 14:41

I feel like I’m probably missing something obvious here but it occured to me that this would be really useful and I can’t figure out a way to do it. Basically just triggering/gating the sample with a middle C for an instrument when switching to it with the number pad so you can play it like a grid-based sampler, similar to an SP-404 or whatever.

Is that possible at all?

Pair it with something like Rolling Sampler and it could be really cool as a more spontaneous/playable means of resampling.

Cheers

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Add_timer() remove_timer(). How to pass a variable through the timer?

December 8, 2023 - 12:54

I have a long-standing recurring problem when programming with add_timer() / remove_timer() using these API functions.
The problem is that I can’t find a way to pass a variable through the timer add_timer().

For example, if I want to execute a function without delay with a variable in the function I can do this:

--the function 1 without timer local function my_func(variable) print(variable) if renoise.tool():has_timer(my_func) then renoise.tool():remove_timer(my_func) end end --bang! my_func(20) --the result is that it will print 20 immediately.

On the other hand, if I use add:timer(), how do I pass said variable “20”?

--the function 2 with timer local function my_timer(variable) if not renoise.tool():has_timer(my_func) then renoise.tool():add_timer(my_func,1000) -- variable??? end end --bang! my_timer(20) --The result will not print the variable "20" after 1 second. It will probably print "nil".

Does anyone know how to pass this variable?
It is no use defining a local outside the function, because that local could change. During that second it should not be possible for the variable to change in any way!

The related documentation from API (Renoise.ScriptingTool.API.lua):

--[[ Register a timer function or table with a function and context (a method) that periodically gets called by the app_idle_observable for your tool. Modal dialogs will avoid that timers are called. To create a one-shot timer, simply call remove_timer at the end of your timer function. Timer_interval_in_ms must be > 0. The exact interval your function is called will vary a bit, depending on workload; e.g. when enough CPU time is available the rounding error will be around +/- 5 ms. ]] -- Returns true when the given function or method was registered as a timer. renoise.tool():has_timer(function or {object, function} or {function, object}) -> [boolean] -- Add a new timer as described above. renoise.tool():add_timer(function or {object, function} or {function, object}, timer_interval_in_ms) -- Remove a previously registered timer. renoise.tool():remove_timer(timer_func)

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I have headphones 7.1 soundblasterx pro gaming AE-5 plus

December 7, 2023 - 17:27

I have headphones and in my sound blaster settings (Sound Blaster pro gaming AE-5 plus) I can test sound and I hear sound from 7.1 on different sides around me, now I want to try to process that in tracks, but that is not possible in renoise and or do I need another program in renoise to make the 7.1 work

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How to record the modulation wheel on my keyboard? - Making noteslide!

December 7, 2023 - 11:53

Hello everybody,

I want to make a note slide, for example from note C4 to Note F4…
Is it better to record the modulation wheel (higher resolution?),
or is it the same, when I use the effectscolumn in the note grid to do it manually?

Or is there even a better way to slide notes?

Kind regards
Joachim

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